Hornbill Unleashed

June 20, 2014

Politics and religion

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yin and yangSin Chew Daily

Is Malaysia a secular or Islamic state? Or, is it a secular Islamic state as claimed by some people?

Our founding father, the first Prime Minister Tunku Abdul Rahman, had clearly told the Parliament: “I would like to make it clear that this country is not an Islamic state as it is generally understood; we merely provided that Islam shall be the official religion of the state.”

On September 29, 2011, however, the fourth Prime Minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad declared at the Gerakan national conference that Malaysia “is already an Islamic state”. He said that Malaysia was defined as as Islamic state as “the status has been recognised by many Islamic states in the world”.

Paradoxically, when Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom said that historical facts indicate that Malaysia is not a secular state and stated Clause 1(A) of Article 121 of the Federal Constitution reads that civil courts have no jurisdiction in respect of any matter within the jurisdiction of the Shariah courts, Dr Mahathir overturned his own argument made in the past and said that Malaysia lacks the conditions to be an Islamic state, and called it a “wrong conclusion” for Jamil to say that civil courts have no jurisdiction in respect of any matter within the jurisdiction of the Shariah courts.

From “is already an Islamic state” to “lacks the conditions to be an Islamic state”, Dr Mahathir’s stand seems vague, causing the people wonder whether to blame him for making the trouble, or thank him for coming forward to end the problem. However, he has, after all, pointed out the following facts:

Forceful implementation of Islamic state will lead to many social problems;
It is not a legal interpretation of the law to refer Malaysia as an Islamic state;
Malaysia is a multi-racial and multi-cultural country and it must be fair to everyone, not only Muslims.
It must be stressed that our Federal Constitution does not explicitly indicate whether the country is a secular or Islamic state. In addition to stating that Islam is the official religion of the country, it also clearly states that other religions may be practised in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation.

If everyone acts according to the Constitution, respect the spirit of the Constitution and maintain the status quo, dispute can then be prevented. The people can enjoy the freedom of religion and get along at peace.

Needless to say, like hudud law, Islamic state is an extremely sensitive issue to non-Muslims that makes them uneasy. Whether the freedom of religion stated in the Federal Constitution has been gradually eroded has been a significant concern to them.

In fact, since the Dr Mahathir’s administration in early 1980s, under the incitement of Islamic renaissance and nationalism, two priorities have emerged in national policies, namely the “Malay priority” and “Islam priority”. Meanwhile, how to expand “Islamisation” has become a competition between Umno and PAS to fight for political interests and votes. Politics seems to have kidnapped religion and it is also the factor behind the repeated occurrence of religion-related disputes in recent days.

The debates on whether Malaysia is a secular or Islamic state and whether hudud law can be implemented continue, but no matter how people argue and interpret, there is one unchangeable fact, namely the supreme law of Malaysia is secular law esteeming customary law.

As Dr Mahathir said, “We have been living under the common law for a very long time and this set of laws has been accepted by all”, keep raising the issue about whether Malaysia is a secular or Islamic state will only hurt the multi-racial society of Malaysia. Then why should national leaders keep debating the issue that will only create more problems?



  1. Wowlau a! it’s no more just seditious and it sounds damn serious this time with proposed or recommended head chopping. Don’t play play man. May be it’s most appropriate that every one should pay a visit to ENT clinic, for No see, No smell and most of all, mute “Silence Mode” surgery. It’s much better to be dumb rather than keeping a body without a head.

    Comment by Kopi O — June 23, 2014 @ 11:32 PM | Reply

  2. We dare Umno Baru bigots to burn or destroy seized Bibles.

    Comment by Francis Libau — June 23, 2014 @ 3:48 PM | Reply

  3. Christians born in Sarawak and Sabah shall continue to use the word Allah in the Bahasa Malaysia Dayak or Kadazan language Bibles. If Putrajaya does not uphold the Constitution on the freedom of worship and insisted to ban Christians from using the word Allah, Sarawakians and Sabahans shall call for a referendum to leave the Federation of Malaysia .

    Comment by Awaken Dayak — June 23, 2014 @ 11:15 AM | Reply

    • It will be difficult for Christians from Sarawak to live in KL without the use of the Al Kitab Berita Baik?

      Comment by Aidil Yunus — June 23, 2014 @ 2:06 PM | Reply

  4. With this current bunch of losers, hypocrites, cowards, underachievers and ignorant bastards-what do you expect? Imagine after FIFTY FIVE years, secular or not, BN is still confusing the public. Then again, what do you expect in Bolehland where the laws of the jungle prevail???

    Comment by Geronimo Miller — June 23, 2014 @ 3:40 AM | Reply

  5. Who would you believe, the true Father of Malaysia, our Tuanku, or that Fake Malay Mahathir ? The answer is clear cut – Malaysia is secular and screw all those people who wants to tinker with our constitution. If Malaysia is a muslims state, Sarawakians and Sabahans should just leave a muslim state because that was not the agreement. But the problem is you all chickens

    Comment by rajah brooke better — June 22, 2014 @ 12:36 PM | Reply

  6. Muslims must pray 5 times a day. This is mandatory, right?
    JAIS and MAIS should enforce this since I notice many malays are eating and watching TV at mamak stalls during Azan Ishak.
    The threat to Islam is the attitude of Muslims.
    Do not blame others.

    Comment by Aidil Yunus — June 21, 2014 @ 11:50 AM | Reply

    • Perhaps MAIS and JAIS officers themselves do not pray 5x a day?

      Comment by Reha — June 22, 2014 @ 12:03 PM | Reply

  7. Nowadays the most popular and preferred “profession” is to become a fighter for this and a hero for that. The saddest thing is this fighter or hero just follow the trend blindly with no conscience on goodwill and sensitivity on the adverse effects on others and to the society as a whole. Also some of the regularly and daily used words can cause us to be called to the court. Wowlau a! just plaster our mouths and play dumb like someone lah! As a consequence, I presumed the kopithiam politic talks must have tuned down a little, if not completely, for fear of the possible seditious sue by some thick-skinned but ultra-sensitive ones.

    Comment by Kopi O — June 20, 2014 @ 11:37 PM | Reply

  8. Warren Buffet & Bill Gates, 2 of the 4 richest men in the world made their money honestly and thru hard work, gave almost half of their wealth in multi billion US$ to charity. Yet they didn’t even get a ‘Sir’ or a Datuk!!! Even Soros whom Dr MM disparaged gave US$100million in 2011. They address each other as Bill, Warren, George. You have thousand of people crowning themselves Tuns, TanSris, Datuks, Datos, Pehin, Padukas, another 13 sultans, a King, and a Rosmah dressed in diamonds & glitters. How much wealth made honestly? How much charity done? What is their total squander in $$$ a year? Many cheat, deceive, steal, buy votes, drown themselves in corruption and scandals & murders, they bully, spread racism and apartheid, religious persecution, talk big, scorn and snigger like your Ex PM….endless crimes and sins. Shame on you Perkasa, UMNO & BN! Curse on you is more justified with all the misery you bring on your people. Malaysia has lost a staggering RM1.08 trillion (US$338 billion) in illicit outflows which is the 4th highest in the developing world…The Global Financial Integrity (GFI) reported in January that RM930 billion flowed out of Malaysia from 2000 to 2008.” An economist at Morgan Stanley in Singapore said that the Malaysia might have lost as much as US$100 billion since the early 1980s to corruption. We all pray for an Act of God. It may be before or after death where there’s permanent fire in thousands of degrees centigrade. From NZ, top in democracy and transparency.

    Comment by alan newman — June 20, 2014 @ 8:44 PM | Reply

    • Good people earn money the clean and legitimate ways and are generous in giving. Such are people God will bless more and receive in Heaven. Evil people derive their ill-gotten wealth through corruption, abuses of power and dirty or ill-gotten means. Most of them are stingy because they are too obsessed or overtly in love with money and material. Such will most likely end in Hell.

      Comment by Sharpshooter — June 21, 2014 @ 6:49 PM | Reply

  9. Sarawak as an independent country was founded by James Brooke. He is the Sarawak nation’s true Founding Father. Malayan dog Tunku Abdul Rahman is not our founding father but our first Malayan colonial master. Sin Chew Daily, who’s your daddy?

    Comment by Hornbill Leashed and Gagged — June 20, 2014 @ 1:12 PM | Reply

    • Only old timer chinese who do not use internet read Sin Chew, a mouthpiece of MCA.

      Comment by darren — June 20, 2014 @ 3:14 PM | Reply

    • James Brooke is not the Founder of Sarawak. Sarawak was already there. My great great great grand ancestor is already here. Just that Brooke is a bit educated and told the queen that he found Sarawak.

      Comment by Ali bin Abu — June 22, 2014 @ 1:52 AM | Reply

      • Wah! Lu punya ancestors so canggeh ah? Dulu lama lama sudah ada GPS to know precisely that they were always inside the borders of the Kingdom of Sarawak ah?

        Seriously, where your ancestors were is irrelevant. Who was the big boss in charge? Who made the laws? Who codified Native Customary Rights to land? Whose flag is the present Sarawak flag based on? Who established the state administrative structure? Who expanded Sarawak’s territory from Kuching to its present size, the largest in Malaysia? Who issued Sarawak’s first currency, the Sarawak dollar? Who issued Sarawak’s first stamp? Who established the Sarawak Rangers? Who established the Council Negeri, the oldest legislature in Malaysia? Whose legacy is Taik Mahmud hijacking by occupying the Astana? Ini semua kerja nenek atok lu kah?

        Comment by Hornbill Leashed and Gagged — June 22, 2014 @ 3:04 PM | Reply

        • Upload the whole content of the alkitab in soft copy into the hand phone. This will solve the problem unless otherwise – they take your HP and destroy it.

          Comment by Ali bin Abu — June 23, 2014 @ 10:40 PM | Reply

        • Dont talk like that friend. My ancestors sudah titon in next world.
          I am not talking of who and who did what. Simply who found Sarawak. Sarawak was there already. If you think so great of your James Brooke go to his home land and see how you will be treated there.

          Comment by Ali bin Abu — June 23, 2014 @ 10:46 PM | Reply

          • By your argument, your ancestors are founders of Malaysia too because they are already there.

            Comment by Hornbill Leashed and Gagged — June 24, 2014 @ 1:21 PM

  10. 3 years ago Umno HQ posted this video on Youtube declaring Malaysia is not a secular nation.
    So it has been Umno’s agenda for sometime.

    Comment by Sergio Salleh — June 20, 2014 @ 9:02 AM | Reply

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